Tuesday, 9 February 2010

An Inconvenient Truth

It's always the little jobs that cause the problems. Having been investigated under Operation Helios and escaping more serious charges because somebody bottled it, Commander Ali Dizaei falls from grace because of his poor judgement on an off duty matter. Forget all this good riddance stuff and concentrate on why this officer was allowed to progress his career.

I think if I'd been captured making threatening phone calls, and we're not talking allegations as the threats were recorded, my career would be no more. Diversity in my book also covers attitudes towards women, and for a senior police officer to be promoted with a Diversity negative tick against him beggars belief. I'm sure if I went through a vetting process for certain police jobs I'd fail - just because of writing this blog. Yet somehow Mr Dizaei has been seen to be a fit and proper person for promotion, and that's despite admissions that his off duty conduct fell below the required standard. Correct me somebody if I'm wrong, but apart from his involvement in the Black Police Association what has he ever contributed to policing?

I can't recall any blinding policing initiatives or policies being created by this man, so what did he bring to the interview table? Not wanting to reopen a can of worms about Helios as Mr Dizaei was found not guilty of criminal charges laid but questions need to be asked of those higher up the chain of command and politicians. Where's the inquiry? because I'd like to know if this officer escaped disciplinary action previously because of his skin colour and political pressure. Equality means just that, equal treatment for all and the perception created by Mr Dizaei damages the ambitions of dedicated Black officers seeking to go further.

As for the Black Police Association - it is now totally discredited and should do the decent thing and fold in it's present form. It has it's own troubles ahead regarding financial irregularities so there is an opportunity for it to be more representative of black police officers. Remember a Black detective noticed the conflict in evidence in the Commander's notes and a Black duty officer ensured that full notes were completed by the constables which stood up in court. No racist conspiracies from what I can see, just somebody who pushed his luck too far.


Blue Eyes said...

I doubt he escaped because of his colour, he escaped because he threatened to accuse people of attacking him on the basis of his colour. Those at the top are still very keen to show how unracist the system is by having quotas of diverse people. As if statistics can paint a picture of the health of an organisation.

As I understand it (as a mere MOP) if an officer is even accused of a crime they are suspended and their career is probably seriously tarnished even if found not guilty.

Mr Dizaei seems to have been treated very differently and one must wonder whether he had exerted some undue pressure or whether those above him in the chain of command were simply too weak to deal with him for fear of accusations of racism.

The whole situation stinks to high heaven and paints a very bad picture of the Met's leadership.

Of course the top tier people are not the ones who will be worst affected, it will be the officers on the ground whose lives will be made more difficult by the system being brought into disrepute.

MTG said...

This was one of the more thoughtful posts on this matter, SoC.

I am in the unusual position of agreement with unexpected sobriety from Blue.

Dandelion said...

Looks like a no-brainer to me. He was promoted because he colluded with the corruption of others from the off. How else does the shit rise to the top like that?

Let's not forget, for every one that gets caught, there are hundreds abusing their position in various ways big and small that don't. And of the ones that do get caught, most of them wriggle out of it. And all this can only happen with the collusion of others.

Not saying there aren't good police people, but how else do you explain stuff like this? Well done for asking the question!

Blue Eyes said...

Good article by Andy Hayman in the Times this morning.

Area Trace No Search said...

Good post SOC. Many of us had personal dealings with him, and it seems he was universally disliked, from PC to ACPO level.

To get that level of dislike takes some doing - I always wondered whether he knew where the bodies were buried, or if he was just the chancer that he seemed to be.

To be honest, my money's on him being a chancer.

Stressed Out Cop said...

Disliking him from either personal experience or media perceptions misses the point.

He did himself on this one .. a straight job he turned wrong, if he'd nicked him for BOP would he be where he is? He would have then been faced with discipline allegation of abuse of authority.

His rise just highlights the political correctness within the police. Where's the merit? How did somebody who achieved very little get promoted above Insp level?

The Commish / Home Office should instigate an inquiry after the election to clear this all up so we don't have to pander to all this post Mcpherson stuff. I'm currently reading that report and my conclusions are different. Hence after the election because we know the result of inquiries under NuLabor are whitewashes. Can I say that?

Anonymous said...

Arrrggghhh! I know so much about this case and I just can't speak out...yet.

Stressed Out Cop said...

Anon - This case was so straight that even M. Mansfield couldn't muddy the waters .. surprised he never brought up single patrol cos' Ali D could of had a witness then !!!!!

Word of caution - personal knowledge on the web .. best keep things vague eh? We all know things that should perhaps be kept in house. Complaints would know where to look if you made it too easy for them. Fairs fair and all that!


Anonymous said...

I'm not a police officer. It is so frustrating at the moment!

Stressed Out Cop said...


Same rules for Gaolers - clerks, jury members and direct witnesses unless you are of course Ali D blogging from your cell in Wandsworth, in which case spill !!

I'm responsible for content on this blog see :)

Hogday said...

One day I may tell more about a bad, bent, senior bully who got protected from the top. It was a side of the organisation (or rather individuals within it at a high level) that I thought had gone. I was wrong. Hopefully them and their kind have departed now.I just can't be arsed to find out any more. Perhaps to good old passage of time will finally flush them all away.

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that none of you have actually had a look at the evidence in this case. Because from what I have seen as an observer, this was no web designer. He was on benefits trying to make a fast buck.

ALi Dizaei got to where he was through the same process that you all failed at. Check out his appraisals and let's hope to God that none of you lot ever end up on a jury with the kangaroo courts that you are holding now.

You are all a disgrace to your uniform.

Blue Eyes said...

LOL, non sequitur of the decade so far!

The web designer was a bit dodgy, therefore the whole justice system is corrupt?

I like it. Let's ignore the self-inflicted injuries, the threats and bullying, the false arrest. Let's pretend there wasn't a dodgy 999 call or that Dizaei was in uniform in a restaurant while off duty.

Anon, nobody is suggesting that Dizaei wasn't more successful at the system than others, but many are asking how the system accelerated the career of someone who turned out to be a bit of a lemon.

Anonymous said...

Non sequitur? Where?

Self inflicted injuries? Top pathologist in the country - stated in The Telegraph that that was in fact, a nonsense.

Threats? Show me where he made threats?

999 Call was made by the "business man" and if you heard it, no doubt it will make it into the top 100 prank 999 calls of 2008.

Uniform? Don't make me laugh. Every night on my home from work, I see you lot in full uniforms, queuing at the chipshop and in kebab houses - what's the difference? Oh and by the way, no wonder you can't catch burglars with that lot swilling around in your stomachs.

As for him being a lemon, I will ask you once again, have you seen his appraisals and performance figures? You are talking through your backsides.

Blue Eyes said...

So don't you get a lunch break in your job? I know I do, sixty glorious minutes of it. I believe it's the law to give your employees a break during the day. And guess what, I don't get changed out of my suit to eat my lunch either.

As for "you lot" who do you think I are (sic)? Me is just a passing MOP.

Stressed Out Cop said...


Perhaps we do know what we are talking about, and just maybe we have seen the performance figures, but what was his contribution?

Don't believe the papers old fruit - courts convict on evidence.

Don't forget after the call you've heard the line was kept open.

There has been no gloating here .. just serious debate. Please look for reactions elsewhere.

Area Trace No Search said...

Anon - we do queue at chip shops, for many reasons.

One is that we rarely get a full break, and when we do we spend it doing paperwork. So because of that we often grab a bag of chips (or a kebab on night duty) to help us through the ten or twelve hour tour of duty.

I have never, ever known a Police Officer to wear his or her uniform off duty, for popping into cafes and having drinks. The only times I've worn it off duty is for weddings, funerals, and awards ceremonies. Each time with permission of the OCU commander, and with the understanding that when wearing it, I am technically on duty.

You're right, the 999 call is a joke - on the ex-Commander's part. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8504926.stm

You say "show me where he made threats?"
Here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8455181.stm

Funnily enough, the Telegraph also speaks of threats, here:

Who is the country's top pathologist by the way, so I know who to search for?
More importantly, the medical professionals at the trial were convinced, the ones who actually examined him and saw the evidence. There will always be arguments about the evidence of a case. That's why we have a trial, where the evidence for the prosecution AND defence is offered, and the Jury decides the truth. That's the way it worked. It wouldn't be a trial if the defence didn't offer any evidence for their client... just a guilty plea. Your argument seems to be that the defence reckoned he wasn't guilty and argued that so it must be the case.

You talk about his appraisals. Here is Andy Hayman talking about an appraisal he did for a new job: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article7019807.ece

Another link that talks about his performance is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249382/Ali-Dizaei-GUILTY-perverting-course-justice.html

Again, there are threats - these made prior to this incident, to women, which even his own defence barrister could not condone. These also might be reasons why many people wouldn't see him as fit to be a Police Officer at all, let alone a high ranking Officer.

MTG said...

Dear Anon,

No reasonable person will ever agree with your ill conceived suggestion that all police are a disgrace to their uniform. Perhaps you will retract that which was only vented in anger.

Please excuse the disgruntled Blue; the poor chap suffers that synergistic effect when insomnia combines with nocturnally elevated blood alcohol.

non sequitur, Blue? I feel all the wiser today knowing Latin was taught at your Comprehensive.

Stressed Out Cop said...


Nice Riposte ..... Sir. WE KNOW DON'T WE ?

Melv - :-)) for your love in and empathy with BE !

Blue Eyes said...

Empathy - that's still illegal in some countries, isn't it?

Hogday said...

Blue: Yes, illegal in the US bible belt, but only if you swallow it :-/

MTG said...

Blue and I have it under control, SoC. We thoroughly enjoy insulting each other and neither of us would allow it to escalate to a serious level.

et fallaces sunt rerum species, mea coelestinus?

Anonymous said...

Not wanting to take issue with too much of what you said but which black duty officer was that? I don't know of one at FH.

Anonymous said...

I haven't been reading the papers "old fruit" - I have a sad feeling that Dizaei was convicted on his personality. As I have said and will say once more, the truth will come out about this matter. I only hope that when it does, you lot give the same attention to detail as you are doing now.

Stressed Out Cop said...

Anon @ 13.58 - The one who was the duty officer on the night.

Area Trace No Search said...

Anon at 13:58, the Duty Inspector who had the pleasure of turning up at that incident was Inspector Jaiye Warwick-Saunders.
Not sure if Insp Warwick-Saunders is still
on that borough, but I'm sure if you have access to Aware you'd be able to find out.

Area Trace No Search said...

Incidentally, in case anyone fears I'm stitching up anyone, the information about the Duty Inspector that evening is in the public domain, here:


Don't want Stressed getting stressed about that.

SOC, any chance of pinging me an email? Cheers...

Stressed Out Cop said...


Like you say all in the public domain ... no stress here

Done so .. in your box