tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post7695309817774604000..comments2023-10-21T14:04:57.028+01:00Comments on Stressed Out Cop: Apathy In The UKStressed Out Cophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09822426269877730126noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-44278322698481402632009-04-09T17:10:00.000+01:002009-04-09T17:10:00.000+01:00Like I say at the outset I didn't know the bigger ...Like I say at the outset I didn't know the bigger plan. <BR/><BR/>I bet they wish they took the dance option now - I would not be surprised if the whole operation is subject to an enquiry of some kind.<BR/><BR/>My assessment Part 1 good - Climate Camp not so good. Plenty would have stayed even if given the option to go, but I suppose they then know the score.<BR/><BR/>Too much grief all round now and plays into hands of extremists. <BR/><BR/>Don't think the front line view is anti the camp people, it isn't. There is a job to do and some had been under the cosh earlier o/s RBS and been rather restrained. Most would have preferred a Samba upto the train station too.Stressed Out Cophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822426269877730126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-9381988546899436442009-04-09T09:53:00.000+01:002009-04-09T09:53:00.000+01:00Thing is, Climate Camp had actually discussed how ...Thing is, Climate Camp had actually discussed how long it was going to stay with the police beforehand, and had it been left another hour it would have got dark, everyone would have finished eating tea, and a lot more people would have gone home. As it was there was no warning at all before everyone was kettled at 7pm :(<BR/><BR/>Indeed, I do like the suggestion of a big group dance - would have been a great spot for a ceilidh, had a suitably cute officer danced me to Liverpool St I might not have minded going too much :)Climate Camp medicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-68950662710679589142009-04-08T19:30:00.000+01:002009-04-08T19:30:00.000+01:00Climate Camp Medic Different vibe in the camp inde...Climate Camp Medic <BR/><BR/>Different vibe in the camp indeed and not full of naughty people. The decision rests higher up to clear it and I don't know what was communicated beforehand. <BR/><BR/>It should have been passed on that a 24 road shutdown was not to be tolerated and a clearence likely at a set time. Like I say I was surprised they cleared it but can see why, and it does leave a bad taste. I was not present for that.<BR/><BR/>I preferred my suggestion - think differently see.Stressed Out Cophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822426269877730126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-21697201665933847952009-04-08T15:25:00.000+01:002009-04-08T15:25:00.000+01:00Climate camp was only ever intended to be a 24-hou...Climate camp was only ever intended to be a 24-hour event, this was very extensively publicised beforehand, and I'm surprised that none of the police on the ground seemed to know that. All the clearance achieved in terms of getting roads clear again was that we didn't have time to do our own litter-picking.<BR/><BR/>Climate camp protestors also didn't have an 'opportunity to leave', I was sitting down praying with friends near the South end at the time of the initial 7pm baton charge, most people around me were eating (kitchen had just dished up), there was no warning to move at all - though the police did find loudspeakers to read us the riot act not long afterwards, so it would have been possible. After the 7:10 initial charge the camp was 'kettled', so lots of people who had not planned to stay and were going to leave after dinner when it got dark were trapped there. I ended up outside the kettle, but having seen my friends take batons to the head whilst sitting down with their hands in the air, I wasn't about to leave the area for fear of what might happen to them whilst trapped.<BR/><BR/>Appreciate your points about crowd violence, but at Climate Camp what happened was contagious crowd non-violence - I'm sure you've seen people hands in the air, sitting down, etc. In three years of climate camp there have been absolutely no convictions for violence, last year the police claimed '70 injuries' but these all turned out to be sunburn & insect bites, and nothing to do with protestors. I do not understand how what I saw at Climate Camp can possibly be justified. Even if the road being blocked 'till noon the next day would have inconvenienced some City workers, how on Earth does that justify taking truncheons to hundreds of peaceful people? Very skewed priorities somewhere methinks.Climate Camp medichttp://g20police.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-28238424407089054062009-04-05T21:39:00.000+01:002009-04-05T21:39:00.000+01:00We all saw how those demonstraters were behaving, ...We all saw how those demonstraters were behaving, very well and in a carnival mood.<BR/>But, with most things, it was spoilt by those young lads who were probably not even involved in the demo.They just join in,being violent and disrupting everything.<BR/>You saw that one demostrator plead with them to stop smashing those windows etc. <BR/>Thye were peaceful demonstrators, and it was spoilt by those other young stupid lads.You always get those with demos.Annettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17502937949422760649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2054760004075742620.post-19574760930022296272009-04-04T14:42:00.000+01:002009-04-04T14:42:00.000+01:00I agree - as Nightjack said, "meh."Wish our duties...I agree - as Nightjack said, "meh."<BR/><BR/>Wish our duties office had worked out how to spread the hours more evenly though, I'm still bloody knackered now...Area Trace No Searchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04397885435594392278noreply@blogger.com